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    Home Automation Thermostat arrived today. Had it up and running in under 15 minutes. Even got the common hooked up ( used that blue wire for anyone who saw my last post )

    Home Automation Thermostat arrived today. Had it up and running in under 15 minutes. Even got the common hooked up ( used that blue wire for anyone who saw my last post )


    Thermostat arrived today. Had it up and running in under 15 minutes. Even got the common hooked up ( used that blue wire for anyone who saw my last post )

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 10:55 AM PDT

    Bought a new house. What can I salvage from their vendor locked devices to more open setup?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 03:33 AM PDT

    As a mildly paranoid software developer I've resisted the smart home thing for years. However, I just bought a house with the following devices:

    • Vivint Sky Panel v3.0 Z-Wave device manager panel
    • 6x Vivint outdoor cameras + local hard drive
    • Nest thermostats
    • Kwikset 910 smart locks Z-Wave programmable codes
    • Some misc. alarm sensors
    • D-link repeater looking things in outlets (Z-Wave?)

    What I want: No monthly subscriptions. Cameras to record to my own controlled local/cloud servers. A web/command line/app to reprogram door codes. Don't really care about alarm systems or anything calling the police. I don't need anything to go over cell networks or run on backup battery - I'm okay with losing access if ISP or power gets cut.

    From my initial research, Vivint seems like a borderline scam company and their proprietary gear is locked to their service and $50/month app.

    I've read a bit about open source HomeAssistant and OpenHAB but it doesn't seem like Nest or any of the vivint gear is going to integrate. Does what I want even exist? Can I replace the control panel and cameras and at least keep the locks? What devices would you recommend? Or is vendor locked and monthly subscription managed services still the norm for home automation these days?

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    I’m over Nest... it’s a real POS thermostat that seems abandoned by Google, like everything else they touch. What’s a better digital thermostat?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 12:44 PM PDT

    I really just need the ability to create custom schedules and adjust the temperature away from home. Also, I want my next thermostat to be HomeKit compatible.

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    Planters Test for A Laser Mapping Robot Vacuum, Next One I may try a chrome base chair challenge

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 05:26 PM PDT

    Automating reclining lounge chair

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 06:03 PM PDT

    I've been thinking of automating my reclining lounge chairs. These are the ones that already have a motor and, at the moment, are controlled by two switches. one that make it recline, and one that makes it go back to normal.

    The motor is DC. (I think 12v).

    So, I'm thinking I need a relay switch, somewhat similar to the Shelley 2.5 that can do blinds. Although that seems to be only possible with AC voltage.

    Obviously there is going to have to be an ability to automatically switch off at some point, like after so many seconds.

    Anyone got an idea?

    Thanks

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    New Construction Smart Light Switch Suggestions

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 10:35 PM PDT

    I have a new home construction that is currently framed with electrical being done. Halo can led lighting has been installed and I would like to have smart switch lighting controls. What would be the most reliable smart switch to go with that also has a modern look (the style of the home is ultra modern)? I'd like to avoid something as sophisticated as Lutron Radio RA 2 because of the cost (electrician quoted $13k, price includes the "I'm in Los Angeles tax"....). Ideally I would like the ability to control the lights from my phone, set scenes and have them function without WiFi.

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    Where to find an aftermarket sensor for my robot vacuum to let me know dust bin is full?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 10:24 PM PDT

    I want just a tiny sensor that beeps or flashes a light if it feels weight or pressure.

    I would think something like that would be simple to find but I couldn't find it on Amazon.

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    Tunable white LED setup HW help

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 07:36 PM PDT

    Looking for recommendations on tunable led strip and driver for local control only, no cloud, under kitchen cabinet. Short run, maybe a little over 3 meters. WiFi or zwave, very comfortable with home Assistant, mqtt, tasmota and ESPHome.... just very new to LED lighting so hardware is my weak point.

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    How do I program Smart Things to make a fan a whole house fan activated by the difference between inside and outside temperature?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 12:45 AM PDT

    I have a window fan attached to a Z-Wave switch and I want to activate the fan when the outside temperature is cooler than the inside temp in order to cool the house faster and help the A/C unit. Sometime in the evening the temp drops to 68 f (for example) but my A/C unit still takes a couple of hour to bring the house from 72 f (day mode) to 68 f (night mode)

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    Fighting summer with tech - I automated my smart fan

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 08:19 AM PDT

    Two Echo Plus 2 edition (zigbee hubs)?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 05:42 PM PDT

    Hey there.

    I've recently started to use my unfinished basement more often. I would like to get an alexa device down there to be able to listen to music and tell it commands.

    I have about 15 zigbee light bulbs throughout my house. I bought the Amazon Echo Plus (2nd) edition to be a zigbee hub. I started to run into problems with connectivity, so I bought a couple zigbee outlet plugs to make my mesh larger/stronger. Since then I haven't had any connections problems.

    When I started to look at a solution for my basement I noticed that 2nd edition ($150) was a lot more expensive then the 3rd edition ($90). I looked into it and it seems like the 3rd edition doesn't have the zigbee hub anymore.

    I got an alert that thee are sales for all echo products. And now it seems like the Echo Plus 2nd edition is back to being $75 where the 3rd edition is $90.

    Would it be smart to grab another 2nd Edition for the Zigbee hub? Or would it be over kill? Or would it mess with my current Zigbee mesh? Will it just become a part of my hub? From what I remember zigbee device can only be attached to one hub.

    Can you turn off the zigbee hub option for the 2nd edition?

    Or is there a better solution? Like a sono?

    Also why are all 3rd generations on back orders? Or there are refurbished ones that are in stock?

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    TP-Link light switches - install all at once?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 05:17 PM PDT

    I'm installing six TP-link light switches at my in-laws house. I'd like to install all six at once so that I'm not going up and down the stairs a bunch of times.

    Can I just turn off the power to all of the outlets at the breaker, install the six light switches, and then turn the power back on? Or is the app set up in such a way that it really only expects setup of one light at a time?

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    Totally regutting our newly purchased home. What kind of things might we consider installing now?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 12:42 PM PDT

    What is easier to install now during first fix?

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    Power monitoring without internet

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 10:36 AM PDT

    I live out in the sticks so I don't have any option for internet except a verizon hotspot which I get 1 signal bar with. It seems like every smart plug I look at requires wireless internet access. Is there anything decent out there that will work with bluetooth?

    Mainly I'm looking for something that I can see power usage with from the panel or through the outlets themselves. I was looking at "Sense" but it says it can use up to 200mb of data per day which would blow through my hotspot data very quickly. So I started looking at individual outlet plugs but every signal one I've seen on Amazon says it uses wifi.

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    Smart Light Switch Advice

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 02:20 PM PDT

    Hello! Months ago I switched out all the lights in my room for smart lights from novostella. The only caveat is that they don't all hook up to the original light switch on my wall as I added additional lights. I currently use their smart life app and a combination of siri to get the lights on and off.

    I tried installing the Kasa smart light switch but my place is too old, the wires are funky and it didn't all quite fit in the wall.

    I'm looking for a BATTERY operated smart switch that can turn all the lights on and off - ideally compatible with siri/homekit. I have not been able to find anything online. Any suggestions?

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    Hardwired Alarms, Konnected Vs Ring

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 01:46 PM PDT

    I have an old hardwired DSC alarm with sensors on everything, I wanting to convert to a smarter one that I can use automations with, does anyone have any firsthand experience with either the konnected conversion kit or the Ring Retrofit Kits? I am using Home Assistant today but I am not tied to it yet, I am still looking at it vs SmartThings,

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    I built a system for air quality monitoring and alarm at my home.

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 03:46 AM PDT

    I built a system for air quality monitoring and alarm at my home.

    The system tells (using google home) the particulate matter values read from the sensor when asked and also has a alarm system(automation) that announces the current air quality whenever its bad ( PM10 > 50 or PM2.5 > 10)

    A simple demo

    Diagram showing how it all works

    The code for the app is available here https://github.com/sherazlodhi/aqmon

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    Roomba 960, Roomba i7, RoborockS6, or something else?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 09:27 AM PDT

    I have a two bedroom apartment roughly 1000 sq ft. Hardwood floor with carpet in the bedrooms. I don't have pets. I like the idea of mapping so it's not randomly going somewhere and missing spots. I'd rather it just know where it's at. With that being said, I was leaning towards Roomba because it seems most people love them and have no issues with them. I know the i7 has the option to empty itself into a base, which is something I may get just to have. Make my life easier type of thing. The reason the roborock came up is because it uses Lidar instead of cameras. Is there a huge difference here? Is Roomba worth the extra cost? What should I be looking at?

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    Tips for mapping out an existing set of three way switch?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 12:54 PM PDT

    I'm trying to add automation (Shelley 2.5) to some three way switches. One in particular has three switches that control 1/2 each of two floor outlets (living room lamps). I already know before I start, there's going to be a ton of wiring and it won't be obvious which wire comes from the circuit breaker and which goes to the load, or just travels to another switch - especially since these are floor outlets I can't assume if the wire goes down it's to the breaker. I've seen plenty of switch loops in this house already (1950s build), so I don't know if the breaker goes to one of the switches or one of the floor outlets.

    Are there any guidelines or tricks and tips to figure these out? Or do I just pull out and unwire all of the switches, flip the breaker back on, and see what's hot?

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    What to do with switches after installing smart bulbs?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 12:45 PM PDT

    I'm in the process of converting all the bulbs in my house to RGB smart bulbs. What should I do with all the switches so they don't get turned off? Is there a "WiFi controller" that I can install in it's place that isn't a switch?

    As a bonus, there are some proprietary led panel lights (ceiling fans) in the house that I won't be able to change, so long term those will need actual switches, matching brands and compatibility would be nice.

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    Buying my first house and no idea where to start. Please help point me in the right direction!

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 06:16 AM PDT

    I'm under contract on a house for just me (25F) and my two cats. A golden retriever puppy is probably in the near future as well. The house is 840 sq ft with an unfinished basement.

    I'm looking into several things but there are just so many options that I'm getting overwhelmed trying to figure out what I think I want or need.

    I am looking into:

    1 - robot vacuum, one that can vacuum and mop (though if the mopping features typically suck, I can just mop myself). About 500 sq ft of my house will be new vinyl plank that I'm installing, seamless with no transitions. With two cats and a golden retriever, I'd love for it to work every day to keep up with the shedding. I will have carpeting in the bedrooms, but I'll probably just vacuum those myself. Otherwise, I have no idea what features I should be looking for!

    2 - doorbell cameras, I'm moving into a decent older area, but it's known that there are porch thieves and people who like to rummage through cars (I have a garage, but it needs work so probably will only park in there before a heavy snow).

    3 - WiFi enabled water sensors, I have an unfinished basement that I will only be going down in maybe once or twice a week, I'm thinking. My sewer scope inspector recommended these so I can be alerted if something were to come up the drains in my basement. I also have a fridge with a water line, so I'd like to place one there.

    4 - smart thermostat, since it's just me, I thought it would be nice to have a thermostat where I can set my work schedule and have it work around that (but still comfortable for my pets!). I live in MN, so it can get really hot and humid during the summer and extremely cold in the winter. I'd probably like my temp set about 68-70 all year long, but it'd be nice if it would go up to maybe 75 when I leave for work in the summer, and then gradually go down to 70 by the time I got home, and vice versa, 65 when I'm not home and gradually up to 68, 70 when I make it home in the winter. Sometimes I work 9-10 hour shifts (with an hour lunch break for the puppy!). Please let me know if this actually isn't ideal and maybe I should just keep it at one temp all day?

    5 - is there a light I can put on a sensor or timer? Specifically for if I'm gone for a weekend or when I work after dark in the winter. It might be nice to have lights randomly turned on in the house at dusk to make it look like I'm home to deter thieves. Or maybe to have lights come on right before I'm set to come home so that everything is lit up for me and nothing is lurking in the shadows? Not sure if I should be looking at smart outlets, lightbulbs, or something else.

    6 - looking for recommendations from other single people who own their own single family home that works for them? Something I'm not thinking of?

    Any tips, suggestions, advice is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

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    What's the current tide of opinion on Z-wave vs ZHA for things like light switches, locks, and thermostats?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 11:32 AM PDT

    I'm going to be moving into my first home soon and kissing the apartment life goodbye (along with all those pesky restrictions in the contract about not replacing fixtures). I want to move away from smart bulbs and battery-powered buttons to switches, and add a smart lock and thermostat. House is 2008 construction in USA, appx 2000 square feet not counting a basement I want to finish. I don't believe there are any smart systems installed yet.

    My Home Assistant setup can already handle both ZigBee and Z-wave devices, but I'm wondering if there's a strong popular opinion one way or the other for this situation. I have a growing number of ZigBee devices already, but the only benefit that would provide is a slightly stronger mesh from the start due to the smart outlets I have. Is there one format particularly suited to getting all of these systems up and running quickly? Cheaply? Cleanly?

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    Most stable system?

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 11:17 AM PDT

    Hello, I have been using Home Assistant for 2 years now. But it has gotten corrupt so many times now after updating or just randomly, Im fed up with reinstalling and restoring backups.

    Im not even using a lot of things, mostly Ikea lights (with Tradfri hub), WLED on a ESP8266 and Zigbee devices (Ikea remote control, Ikea lights and Xiaomi sensors). For Zigbee I use a GoControl HUSBZB-1.

    I use NodeRed for automations.

    So my question would be, is there a more stable system than HA which supports the above hardware (and Node Red or similar software). Preferably free, but if it is not overly expensive I dont mind paying.

    I have ran HA on a Raspberry Pi, but switched to a Windows desktop PC and running HA in a VirtualBox VM. It seems to run faster. Since I switched to the VM it does seem to run more stable and faster than the RPi.

    So what software would you recommend? A stable system is key (with support for the above devices).

    Thanks!

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    Ring motion sensor 2 without ring alarm system

    Posted: 17 Aug 2020 10:23 AM PDT

    Does anyone know if I can pair the ring motion sensor 2 directly to a smart things hub without the ring alarm system?

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    My journey to an organized smart home using Docker

    Posted: 16 Aug 2020 11:39 PM PDT

    My journey to an organized smart home using Docker

    As I've built up my smart home, I've found myself using an increasing number of interdependent services. As they can cause issues with each other, I was very attracted to Docker as a way to keep everything isolated and portable. That said, I ran into some hiccups with my setup, so I thought I'd share a few of my suggestions and best practices in the hopes they help someone out there.

    I am far from an expert, and these are my experiences. I've learned by failing and by lots of googling and trial and error. They are not the only, or even necessarily the best way to do things, just the best as far as I've learned. I'm very open to suggestions, though my primary intent with this post is to help others get through some of the stickier points.

    Also, my only experience with Docker has been running on an x86 Ubuntu server. While much of this probably will apply to other systems (especially Macs and other Linux flavors), I can't guarantee that.

    I use Docker to run the following services on my server.

    • openHAB Home Automation
    • MotionEye CCTV
    • Emby media server
    • Logitech Media Server + 2 SqueezeLite instances for audio streaming
    • ShairPort Sync for audio streaming from Apple devices
    • InfluxDB
    • Grafana for beautiful graphs
    • Frontail for viewing logs
    • UniFi poller for bringing UniFi data into my Grafana graphs
    • Portainer for container management

    My container list in Portainer

    That's a lot of software with conflicting requirements, and I think it'd be really hard to keep it all running happily using just SystemD. This is where Docker really shines!

    I strongly recommend Portainer to keep track of your Docker containers. While you can theoretically do everything you need from the command line, I find it very helpful to view everything at a glance and make small changes. I would make getting that set up the first step of a successful Docker setup.

    Next, I'd identify software that doesn't necessarily benefit from the Docker experience. Initially, I planned a strict Docker-only stance for my IoT services, but I found that to be less than optimal. nodeRED tended (for me) to work better installed directly on the host machine, and I also (before I switched to MotionEye) found that Shinobi CCTV worked better directly on the machine. I don't remember why, but I had trouble with my Mosquitto container and decided just to run it as a SystemD service. Finally, I used QLC+ for DMX control, and that seems to work best on its own system, so it got its own RPi3. YMMV.

    Next, I start with the service's entry on Docker Hub and look at the docker run examples. I take the example, create a text file on my desktop computer, and use that as a template. That way, if I ever need to recreate the container, I can do so using the exact same variables as I used to build it. An important caveat here is that, if you make changes to your container using Portainer, that it's important to include these changes in your notes.

    Next, if my container requires a persisted volume (as most do), I always use a bound volume using the I prefer the ability to have all of my container data in one place. I use the /opt directory, and create a subdirectory for the service, i.e., /opt/grafana. I prefer the ability to have all of my container data in one place. I use the /opt directory, and create a subdirectory for the service, i.e., /opt/grafana. I make sure the runcommand reflects the proper file path:

    -v /opt/grafana/data:/var/lib/grafana \

    Note that for Docker flags the host machine's info is on the left and the container is on the right. For this example, the folder /opt/grafana/data appears to the container as /var/lib/grafana.

    Next, and I think this issue creates some of the biggest headaches: I consider file permissions. If the container doesn't have permission to view the files inside it's directory, it can't function properly. To avoid going in to unnecessary detail I'm going to link some recommended reading here:

    https://www.tecmint.com/add-users-in-linux/

    https://www.howtogeek.com/50787/add-a-user-to-a-group-or-second-group-on-linux/

    Basically, to get your permissions straight, you will want to do the following:

    • Create a new user and group for your service (i.e., grafana) with a specific user and group ID (I used 9004 for grafana)
    • Add your primary user to the group, so you have read/write permissions over the files
    • Give ownership to the new user: sudo chown -Rv grafana:grafana /opt/grafana
    • Change permissions: sudo chmod -Rv 775 /opt/grafana
    • Make Docker run the container as the proper user (add to your Docker Run): --user=9004 \

    At this point, you should be ready to try firing up the container. I keep an instance of Portainer up so I can monitor the new container. The Log is often very helpful in diagnosing issues that keep containers from coming up or working properly.

    Here's my full Grafana run example (minus a few settings I set here that would be unnecessary for the purposes of demonstration):

    sudo docker run \

    -d \

    -p 3000:3000 \

    -p 8081:8081 \

    --restart=always \

    --name=grafana \

    --user=9004 \

    -e GF_SECURITY_ALLOW_EMBEDDING=true \

    -e GF_AUTH_ANONYMOUS_ENABLED=true \

    -v /opt/grafana/data:/var/lib/grafana \

    grafana/grafana

    My container is now happily running, and is set up to run on every reboot. If I need to make changes, I can test them in Portainer but make sure to keep them documented in my text file. This way, if I every need to start over with a fresh install of my server, I can do so with a copy of my /opt folder and a collection of saved docker run commands.

    One final but useful piece of info: how to SSH into your container. For this example, I'll use InfluxDB as it's the only container that I needed to SSH in to for setup purposes. For a container named influxdb use this command:

    docker exec -it influxdb /bin/bash

    You then can interact with the container directly. In the case of InfluxDB, this is the easiest way to create new users and databases.

    I hope this is helpful! For many of you this is probably repeating things you know well, but I hope this might be helpful for someone!

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