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    Home Automation Home Automation is just not ready for primetime - I'm tired.


    Home Automation is just not ready for primetime - I'm tired.

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 05:44 AM PDT

    Here is the deal. I'm F* tired.

    EVERYTHING seem to be not yet ready for primetime. The inconsistence is the single most annoying thing on the world.

    Google Home? Apple Siri? Amazon Alexa?? all of these suffer from the same thing, you give them a command, it works. You go and test this 10 times, 100 times, it works. your wife go and do the SAME thing, on the one day that you are not in home, and BAM. it does not work.

    August Locks? They work... worked probably 3 or 4 times a day, everyday for the last 2 years. then last week they decided not to work... yes, we are talking about a 0,035% failure ratio for my home, but boy, being completely locked out of your home, with the kids screaming, toddler crying, waiting for a locksmith that would just look and say "I cannot open this lock without any damage to your door..."

    I have a Unraid server, Raspberry Pi(es?) on the TVs, the access the server to grab media, to grab ROMs, etc... Until a few months ago that they stopped doing that, and there we go, for days of diagnosing, understanding why the NFS network wasn't working appropriately, and deciding to move to SMB...

    All the "Smart lights" I had to switch for smart relays (actually dumb relays and a smart actuator), because of a potential problem of one day deciding that they would not connect to the wifi.

    It seem that things get more and more reliable as they get dumber.

    And EVERYTHING now needs a different account, needs direct internet access, WHY THE FUCK A COFFEE MAKER NEEDS TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET? IF I'M NOT AT MY HOME I DON'T NEED TO MAKE COFFEE AT MY HOME!! all this complexity makes everything unreliable.

    I have a Job, a wife, 2 kids, hobbies, etc... I'm tired to have to dedicate all the free time (that I don't have) to troubleshoot home automation problems. I'm moving back to dumb home.

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    Automation for a commercial space

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:06 PM PDT

    Hi all, not sure if r/homeautomation is the best reddit for this but I am looking forward to draw inspiration from you amazing folks!

    I'm in the process of helping my friend put together a workflow since I'm "supposedly" more adept with technology, but I feel like I'm running into quite a brick wall.

    He's looking for a lock system (preferably non-deadbolt) that's cloud-based with the ability to integrate with a booking system, so that when someone books a timeslot, it automatically generates a time-sensitive key for said time, and the client would have access to the building (multiple users simultaneously with different entry/exit times).

    Moreover, he's hoping to automate the lighting of the spaces - let's say there are 4 spaces, and when someone books a timeslot at time X for Space 1, the lights in Space 1 will turn on at said time. I'm thinking along the lines of something like a smart power strip with Zapier integration, together with a hopefully compatible lock system to generate a seamless automation workflow. Am I really off base here?

    Looking forward to hearing what you bright people have in mind!

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    Question about under-cabinet lights controlled by switch and WiFi

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 01:58 PM PDT

    This is a sketch of my kitchen.

    I want to add LED strip lighting under all four cabinets with these requirements:

    1. I need an easy on/off switch like any normal light.
    2. I'd really like the option to turn on/off through an app or on an Alexa schedule.
    3. A dimmer would be great but it's not critical.

    Where I'm running into an issue is one cabinet is by itself. How do it power it? How do I control it?

    I can easily add outlets above any cabinet by tapping into the outlet below (and store the power supply on top). So installing two power supplies isn't an issue but could I control both with a switch?

    My tentative plan is:

    • replace the 2nd outlet with a smart switch
    • install a new outlet above the cabinet for power supply
    • run low voltage wire under sink and behind dishwasher to far right cabinet (difficult by manageable, I think)

    I'm not entirely sure if a smart switch powering an outlet does what I need, so I'll definitely take product recommendations.

    Also, I don't know if there's a better way than trying to hide low voltage wire around plumbing.

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    Smart replacement to baseboard heater thermostat?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:08 PM PDT

    Smart replacement to baseboard heater thermostat?

    I have no idea how to find something compatible. Sorry if the answer is obvious, I am far from competent in this realm! I have an abode security system that I use as a z-wave hub (also have Alexa). My two goals are to find something that I can check remotely to make sure it is turned off and that I can have running on a timer.

    https://preview.redd.it/vuq1x1wpbct51.jpg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e3c1630d45eac0bd7250fef5328b94c5e1d0c8f

    https://preview.redd.it/53mu60wpbct51.jpg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed3ba1d78c4a840d29e0e7a5fb82d4648b04248c

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    Garden Lights for only me

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:06 PM PDT

    I have a garden light which I only want to turn on for me, when it's dark. I have an ewelink smart switch which I can use to turn it on remotely, but is there anyway to do this based on location so I don't need to get my phone out?

    Ifttt applet does not work, I tried. Alexa does not allow location routine triggers in the UK. Google home can only seem to run routines if you are home or away, not specifically in your garden.

    Getting a motion sensor is no use, because it would turn the lights on for everyone, not just me.

    Any suggestions?

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    Programming questions from someone thinking about getting into home automation!

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:14 PM PDT

    I'm an industrial electrician, so I'm used to utilizing ladder logic, and I/O boards. I feel "relatively" competent with the tangible mechanical aspects of automated systems, but fairly certain that I have no knowledge of the digital. How would one in my situation best begin learning?

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    Calculating average power (Influx, Grafana)?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 09:35 PM PDT

    I have power (watt) data coming into Influx. I only send data above a minimum change, so this data coming in is irregularly spaced in time. It's not coming in at any regular periodic interval, like every 2 seconds. Instead, I might get lots of data points when there are lots of changes, and few data points when there are few changes.

    I then wrote a continuous query to average the values every minute, like this:

    CREATE CONTINUOUS QUERY "cq_watts_minute" ON "telegraf" BEGIN SELECT mean("value") AS value INTO "infinite"."watts_minute" FROM "autogen"."emon_watts" group by time(1m), topic FILL(previous) END 

    My intention is to get the time-averaged power for that minute.

    Does taking the mean of the watt values make sense to do if the values aren't a regular periodic data? I think mean is a just summing the points divided by the number of points?

    For example, say the first 30 seconds of data fluctuates between 45 watts and 55 watts and there are lots of data points, while the next 30 seconds is 0 all the way through so I only get a single 0 data point. The time average should be 25W for that minute. But if you average by number of data points, the n-average would be closer to 50W for that same minute. I want the time average.

    I also suspect that Grafana's "average" legend stat is averaging using n-points.

    I didn't see a way to do something like integral or area under curve for continuous queries.

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    Need a camera to wirelessly live stream to a monitor 400ft away (no internet access)

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 09:01 PM PDT

    Hi all. I have a bit of an odd request. I am trying to find a battery operated camera that can live stream to a dedicated monitor that is approximately 400ft away.

    It needs to be completely wireless and should have an ability to store footage and there is zero internet access nearby.

    Essentially, I need something similar to a Fpv camera found on a drone except more robust. Does anyone have any suggestions on a camera or suggestions on where to focus my search?

    Thanks in advance!

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    I'm new to home automation, I was thinking of getting a smart switch to pair with my echo dot. Can I then get smart bulbs independent to the switch and work both the switch and the bulb simultaneously?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 02:54 PM PDT

    Multi-temperature dimmables: comparison of Globe Electric Duo Bright, Philips Hue Ambiance and Ikea Tradfri A19 lights

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 04:54 PM PDT

    Multi-temperature dimmables: comparison of Globe Electric Duo Bright, Philips Hue Ambiance and Ikea Tradfri A19 lights

    I work in my bedroom, so I want to be able to make them warmer at night and cooler during the "day" (which is 12pm to 2am for me). It's taken me forever to try all this stuff out, so Imma share my findings.

    I'm going full Zigbee with a ConBee II USB dongle as a hub. No Wiz lights, because I don't trust a product that has a ton of marketing, premium packaging, a ton of circuitry (2MB ram, dual firmware, full WiFi HTTPS stack) and still manages to be a budget brand because they make you connect to their cloud servers to do something as basic as turn on a light bulb.

    Here's what I found.

    Light Philips Hue White Ambiance: $40 Ikea Tradfri 1000 lumen: $18 Globe Electric DuoBright A19: $10
    Switch Philips Hue Dimmer: $30 Ikea Tradfri Remote: $18 or Sinope Smart Dimmer: $60
    Total $70 $36 $70
    Brightness on box 800 lumens 1000 lumens 800 lumens
    Measured brightness at 50cm 500 lux at max temperature; 800 lux at about 4000k 1350 lux 1200
    Temperature 2700k-6500k? 2700k-4000k 2000k-5000k

    Photos of my wall, taken with a white balance of 5000k (daylight), 1/40s exposure, 200 ISO:

    https://preview.redd.it/rj35n8sdect51.png?width=1688&format=png&auto=webp&s=419b6dc910c54eb689029bf009379e6c117ea0da

    Observations:

    • Switches are more or less interchangeable if you use a hub, and there are even $8 Tradfri ones. The Sinope dimmer is the exception, as it doesn't expose any capabilities as a switch, only as a light. (If you're willing to program your own solution from scratch, you could read the brightness value off the Sinope and reflect that to the other lights -- but that's a huge can of worms.)
    • You need a hub or a Hue switch in order to factory reset a Hue. This seems really anti-consumer to me.
    • Hue's minimum brightness is the dimmest of all three; Tradfri's is the brightest.
    • Philips Hue is by far the least light for buck. I don't know why they're so dark. They might be good in a situation where you have a ton of fixtures and can afford lights for all of them (and maybe that's why they're so dark).
    • Globe Electric DuoBright is a good option if you have a ton of lights on a single dimmer. They're also the only one that can get up to daylight temperature without going dim.
    • Ikea Tradfri is probably the best value in most situations, especially if you don't have a hub. Being able to put up additional switches for $8 or motion sensors for $17 is killer. The downside, for me at least, is that they only get up to 4000k, which is just shy of daylight.

    I'm probably going to stick with Tradfri, though I'll miss DuoBright's color.

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    Cost-efficient Smart heating with dual-heat source setup

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 12:08 PM PDT

    Hi all,

    I am about to get a Daikin mini-split with the wifi-module to allow for remote management. I will then connect it to my smarthings hub. My cottage has 4 rooms with electric baseboard heat, and while I only really care about the main living area, a bonus would be a solution that includes all rooms.

    The cottage is used primarily for vacation rentals, and while I could explain to the guests to use the mini-split for heating, I know you can't always rely on the guest to do as you ask. My main goal for this post is: How to automate the most cost-efficient heating solution that is seamless to guests.

    My original idea is as follows:

    1 mini-split wifi module1 smart thermostat

    Using SmartThings hub, I want to configure these devices as follows:

    Setup an automation such that the guest controls the heat using only the a smart thermostat.

    - If in heat mode, use the electric baseboard heaters to get the room to temperature, but then use the mini-split to maintain it, and stop using the baseboard heater.- If the mini-split is having a hard time keeping the temperature regulated, then use the baseboard heater to bump up the heat and then turn it off again.

    That's the gist. Originally I thought I could rig something using the mysa thermostat (since it is one of the only ones for electric baseboard heat). But I'm not sure about any limitations.

    Anyone have any ideas on the best setup?

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    Kitchen sugestions? Frigde camera?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 03:41 PM PDT

    Large part of the fun in homeautomation is the fact of finding a new project to automate.
    Tommorow I will recieve my "smart" oven (because my older not smart broke). That started me tinking about the other devices in the kitchen. Not that I wanted to replace them now. But what can I do to make them smart without spending a lot of money. Allready have them on smart outlets and the fridge has a sensor on the door.

    But what can be done more? looking at the new smart fridge the have a camera on the inside that can track food. that sounds interesting! So mabe putting a camera on the inside I can see the fridge in the store.

    searching for a solution I found Fridgecam. With a lot! bad reviews on the wifi and the image quality.
    (Sadly no youtube reviews). Also there are two not released product Freshcam and Fridge eye.

    Do any of you know of a DIY for a fridge camera setup? or any other solution?
    or any other cool ideas for the kitchen devices?

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    Has anyone connected Sengled bulbs to the Xiaomi Gateway 3 ?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 11:53 AM PDT

    Just now I seen the Xiaomi Gateway 3 on AliExpress and it looks like this would be a great replacement for my Smartthings hub rather than running Smartthings > HomeBridge > HomeKit solution I'm using.

    If Sengled bulbs can connect to the Xiaomi Gateway 3 > HomeKit then this gets rid of my need for HomeBridge.

    What about "Samsung Multi & Motion" sensors? Will they work?

    I'm getting sick and tired of Smartthings being my place of issue lately. Everything just works when it wants. Everything I have direct with HomeKit just works.

    Thanks

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    What lights to put into my soffits outside for holiday/landscape lighting?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 11:47 AM PDT

    So I'm trying to get some lighting done next year and want to do "smart" RGB lights that I can have holiday themes on, custom themes, etc... is there such a beast? I figure I can get it all wired into my home but I honestly don't know what lights would be good and durable, and which provide enough light for the job.

    Appreciate any thoughts on this!

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    Turn off Alexa alarm from a switch elsewhere

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 11:40 AM PDT

    Hi. I have a teenage daughter who sets loads of alarms in the morning and turns each one off and goes back to sleep until the last one. I'm getting her an Amazon echo and was wondering for there's any way to program an alarm that will only turn off if a dumb switch elsewhere in the house is turned off? That'll get her out of bed!

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    Bond Alternatives that work with IFTTT

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 11:34 AM PDT

    Just realized my Bond hub is no longer supporting use with IFTTT (either version). Any ceiling fan/light alternatives out there? I use knocki controllers and wireless tags to "talk" to the fans via Bond... well, I used to.

    Thanks

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    What are some good, not too expensive z wave/ zigbee bulbs compatible with smart things hub?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 05:10 PM PDT

    Stereo receiver control via Alexa routines?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 11:01 AM PDT

    I'd like to change my home audio settings using Alexa routines. I don't want to have to give several commands like "set input", "set speakers", and "turn up volume"; I want to say "movie time" and have a few audio settings configured accordingly (along with the room lighting, which it does now).

    I don't see many (any?) receivers that natively support this. I've explored some solutions that all seem to include Harmony Hub, but I haven't gotten deep into those solutions to know if they'd accomplish my goal. Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks in advance!

    More details

    Things I'd like to programmatically control:

    • Volume: would like to set a specific level, not just up or down
    • Input source: select 1 of 2 inputs, TV or echo dot
    • Output selection: would like to explicitly set speaker output A, B, or both, not cycle through those options

    My existing, basic receiver (Sherwood RX-4105) has a remote that can change volume (up/down, not specific level) and set a specific input, but cannot change the output speakers. It's closed in a cabinet, so its IR receiver isn't usually exposed.

    I'm willing to buy a new receiver if it makes sense and the total cost is reasonable, probably <$250 since I don't need high end. I'm also willing to install external hardware like programmable relays or switches if that's needed for the solution.

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    Home Control (advice needed)?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 09:19 AM PDT

    We're building a vacation home and I'm trying to figure out what brands/systems to pursue and could use some help. I care less about automation as I do about control (being able to arm/disarm, turn on/off lights, temp control, etc).

    At our primary residence we have Control4, but that's too pricey for a second home and honestly, I barely take advantage of it's power.

    At the moment, my current plan is:

    • Thermostats: Probably one of the Nest variants. We have ecobee at our primary residence and I think the interfaces pales in comparison to the Nest dials (probably the Nest e since we need ~7 of them).
    • Lights: Most likely going down the Insteon route as we can get them at contractor pricing. My understanding is Caseta is probably a bit more reliable, but I don't like the look of the Caseta switches.
    • Cameras: Gonna go with Unifi gear for camera & network...mostly because I'm upgrading our setup at our primary place and will use the switch and cameras here :)
      • Nest has much better image recognition, but sadly doesn't have a POE option.

    So where I need help:

    • Locks: I'd love a direct integration into Insteon, Unifi or Nest, but it doesn't seem that anything exists. It's unclear to me if the Nest Guard controls the locks.
      • Not only is it important for me to unlock/lock remotely, but to also create separate codes for others (e.g. housekeeper) and get notifications on when those codes are used.
    • Home Security: Originally I didn't think we would get any home security, but thinking more about it now, it would be nice to have something there if it doesn't cost a ton.
    • Garage: Ability to know if the garage doors are open would be nice, but it's lowest on my priority list.

    I'm ok with multiple apps, but would like to minimize the number of apps I need to switch around with. It sounds like if I go with Nest Guard, I may get most everything I need and would end up with 3 apps (which is manageable) but would love some direction, especially if there is an alternative I'm not considering.

    Candidly, I'm also very unfamiliar with Home Assistant, SmartThings or any other common platform that may achieve what I want

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    Lego train with Google home :-D

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 10:32 AM PDT

    Issue with Kasa 3-way switch HS210

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 07:45 AM PDT

    Update: tried musical chairs in 3 wires, not working; tried re-positioning HS201 to living room, the same result. Tried to replace both dumb switch, worked.

    I have 2 toggle switches controlling stair light, one is in the lobby, another one is in living room. According to tp-link and Amazon reviews, it will work by replacing just one of them.

    So I replaced lobby one (has neutral wire) with HS210 and kept living room one with manual toggle. After wiring done, everything looks fine. I can turn on/off stair light using Kasa app or living room manual with no problem.

    But something came up and confused me. After turning off by toggle switch in living room, Kasa app still show the light was on. On the other hand, if I turn on light by toggle switch, Kasa app won't show the correct status (still showing off) and the LED circle on the Kasa switch will be still on (means HS210 switch thinks the light is off too).

    Looks like operations on the manual toggle switch were not successfully recorded by Kasa app.

    Am I missing something here? I also remember someone mentioned that one of the switches could be the dominant one, in my case, is it possible that I should replace living room one by HS210, instead of the lobby one?

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    Roller shutter motor controller?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 07:35 AM PDT

    Hello! I am looking for a way to make my corded roller shutters automated.

    There are various roller shutter motors on the market but I need a way to control them through WiFi/Zigbee. These are 200W+ motors and I preferably need a controller or another cheap way to control 4 of them.

    Any ideas?

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    Wifi LED light strips correct amount of power.

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 02:57 PM PDT

    I'm trying to set up some strip LED lights in my bedroom. I currently have a 16.4ft Nexlux set going around my desk that uses the Magic Home Pro app and IFTTT. I recently purchased a QJB 65.6ft set (2 32ft strips) to put around my wall. I wasn't aware that there are different protocols and I just thought the lights I bought would work with the Magic home pro app as well. As I soon found out, they don't.

    My original intention when buying another set of lights was to have both of them in sync doing the fade animation and have them be controlled by my Alexa(on and off). But since the QJB uses the tuya app, I'm unable to sync the lights together.

    I saw that you can buy the Magic Home Pro controller on Amazon for around $15. I was looking into this Magic Home Controller since it had 2 light outputs, similar to the QJB controller, but I'm sort of afraid that it's going to be the wrong amps or watts and I'm going to end up starting a fire.

    My set of Nexlux lights use a 12V 2A adapter, and the OJB uses a 12V 3000mA (3A?) power adapter.

    Would the Magic Home Controller work with the longer set of lights? It doesn't come with its own power adapter, so would using the QJB adapter work since it has more amps? The amazon description didn't state what amps the power adapter needed to be.

    Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

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    What smart thermostat system has options for both line voltage and low voltage appliances?

    Posted: 15 Oct 2020 08:37 AM PDT

    What smart thermostat system has options for both line voltage and low voltage appliances?

    Trying to add smart thermostat to an older home.

    One room has 4 in wall electric forced air heaters and is controlled by one thermostat, it appears to maybe be a relay instead of line voltage because there are just two small wires poking out of a small hole in the wall going to it.

    The other rooms in the house have 1 to 2 of the same in wall electric forced air heaters, those thermostats have several thick wires with screw on connectors and appear to be line voltage thermostats.

    I am planning to replace each current thermostat with a new thermostat so I can keep heating each room at different temperatures/times,.

    I was looking at Mysa and I don't think they would handle the first thermostat I described.

    Are there other brands that would? I would prefer to stick to one system so I could control it all from the same place. I would also prefer something that can work over wifi for now, but has Zwave compatibility in case Ring adds support for this in the future.

    Pictures included

    2 heater thermostat

    2 heater thermostat

    2 heater thermostat

    2 heater thermostat label

    4 heater thermostat

    4 heater thermostat

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