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    Home Automation Can we please get rid of these annoying verbal confirmations? They are annoying and unhelpful.

    Home Automation Can we please get rid of these annoying verbal confirmations? They are annoying and unhelpful.


    Can we please get rid of these annoying verbal confirmations? They are annoying and unhelpful.

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 09:50 AM PST

    Why do smart light bulbs (my Sengled ones at least) have to connect to their websites to work?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 11:58 PM PST

    I got Sengled light bulbs in my place, and as of now (11:30PM PST) all Sengled .us .ca .eu websites are down, so that means the hub can't connect back home, so that means the lights can only be used as dumb bulbs.

    Why is this a thing?

    Internet connection should only be necessary when the hub is being controlled from outside the network. But not only do these bulbs have to be connected to the internet 24/7, but they must be connected to their own website servers. At the very least this should have been engineered so that if the website servers go down, the whole system doesn't shit the bed with it as well.

    Screw voice assistants too for not being able to perform local, same-network operations with only a WiFi connection and no internet.

    /end rant

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    What are exactly the bypass loads for dimmers?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 11:41 PM PST

    Hi,

    I am planning to treat myself with some no neutral zwave dimmers (fibaro or qubino) for christmas and I see that especially if I take a dimmer that uses no neutral a bypass load can be necessary to prevent flickering of led bulbs. I also know that these bypass loads are sold separately for some 10 euros per piece, so the question is: what are exactly these bypass loads? Are they some high voltage resistors, or some high voltage capacitors in a plastic box? Are they something else? If so, then the price seems a bit high, since you can buy supplies for probably less than a euro each.

    Can these bypass loads be "diy-ed"? (I live in Europe, so line voltage is 230V AC)

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    Roborock S4 vs Roborock S6 vs Deebot Ozmo 920

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 05:39 PM PST

    This is my personal opinion and test on 3000sq ft home (with hardwood and carpet floor) and will not discuss most of the specs here.

    Roborock s4 - tested 1 month

    Roborock s6 - tested 2 months

    Deebot Ozmo - 3 days

    Roborock S4:

    Design: Sleek and thin robot its easy to go under most of the furniture and uses single side brush.

    Pros: Navigation, hardwood floor pick up (various suction levels), Quieter. Software/App is awesome

    features(no go zones, room splitting *,zone cleaning) and battery 1 charge it cleaned both floor.

    Cons: Carpet cleaning keep getting brush blocked (with hair..etc) and inability climb bath mats.

    Tile cleaning is just ok.

    No multifloor maps (max 3 - 1-cleaning map. 2- cleaning mas with no go zones. 3- is backup)

    Roborock s6:

    Design : Little thick compared to S4 and it has mopping and uses single side brush

    Pros: Navigation, hardwood floor pick (various suction levels). Carpet cleaning is better compated to S4.

    Software/App is awesome features(no go zones, room splitting *,zone cleaning)

    Good Climbing ability. No multifloor maps (max 3) and battery 1 charge it cleaned both floor.

    Cons: Still not that great on carpet. Multifloor maps not available. Little louder compared to s4

    Deebot 920:

    Design : Think Robot (like s4) and it has mopping and it has two brushes.

    Pros: Cleaning on Hardwood floor is good and carpet is also good (not even single block errors). little better

    pickup due to two side brush (not a significant but better). Multifloor maps (was not able figure out this

    yet every time i do it overwrites on each maps). Software features(no go zones, room splitting *,zone

    cleaning). Climbing ability is pretty good better than s6.

    Cons: Battery not that great (max 1 floor with 1200 sqft)

    Navigation slow some time its thinks thinks..

    goes to some places and gets stuck.

    *software glitches unable to identify docking station. most of the time it does not where is the dock

    even you map whole house. Figuring out multicolor maps hard to do no help anywhere and everytime

    map overwrites on each other or merge.

    Verdict: Roborock s6 & s4 (it has everything software features, hardware and its flawless).

    Runner up: Deebot cleaning 920 is awesome cleaner and they have to fix docking issues and software glitches. the

    whole purpose of robot is cleaning without user intervention. Navigation should be improved.

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    Google Nest Home Hub Issue, Vol 2: The Plot Thickens (x-post to r/googlehome)

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 03:03 PM PST

    The Problem:

    I posted here some time ago about an issue with my Google Nest Hub Max, and after several frustrating months of problem-solving with Google and some admirable attempts to help from Reddit, the problem has somehow gotten worse, weirder and way more interesting.

    I started developing a strange issue with my GNHM several months ago when I would wake up in the morning and it would be freaking the f*** out. Which is to say, all of the menus would be flying open, pictures sliding around the backdrop etc.

    Cool, the Nest is haunted.

    Then it got worse. When the menus were open, buttons would get activated. Lights would turn on and off all over the house, the temperature would change, the news would start blaring in the middle of the night. I have video (link below) of the Nest threatening to unlock the door as it talks to itself. There were hardware issues, too. Eventually, the camera just stopped working on the unit. My wife, who was always skeptical of home automation, looked at me like a defense attorney resting her case.

    So finally, after waiting several weeks for some kind of advanced team to get back to me, I decide that the otherwise great Google Support team needs a little encouragement. I call and explain more forcefully that they are the ghost waking my wife and I up every night when the lights flicker under our bedroom door. They agreed to send me a new unit under the pretense that I had received a dud.

    But then the new one came, and now it's doing the same thing.

    I don't have a statistics background, but I'm going to go ahead and assume it's unlikely I got two duds in a row. Which leads me to conclude that this is somehow environmental? And that, my friends, is why I humbly ask for your advice in considering what I could possibly be doing to haunt my own house.

    I do have some interesting experiments I've conducted. For a guy who's somehow managing to haunt himself, I think it was clever to point a different Nest camera at my GNHM to gather data in the night. Every morning I check the feed to see what new insanity I can learn from. For instance, who knew this problem only happens when Google sends some kind of signal [update? mind control?] to restart my device every night between 2:30am and 4am, but usually around 3:30am?

    I still haven't cracked the case, though, and I could really use a Watson to my Holmes.

    Here's what I've ruled out:

    • The problem doesn't happen when I reboot the unit, only when Google sends their early morning signal (although my first GNHM eventually got bad enough that it would bug out on every reboot)
    • It wasn't prevented by enabling Do Not Disturb to interfere with whatever signal Google was sending
    • It wasn't affected by disabling Google usage data and crash reports
    • It isn't affected by being on a WiFi mesh system (Meshforce), as I disabled it one night and it still did it
    • It wasn't affected by being on 2.4ghz versus 5ghz
    • It wasn't affected by being plugged into an extension cord versus being plugged into a wall socket
    • It wasn't affected by removing off brand Chinese products on the wifi network
    • It still happened when I removing two large metal candle holders immediately to either side
    • It didn't happen when I disabled the ambient light setting

    Things still to be ruled out & other clues:

    • There is a nearby vent blowing warm air that passes behind it along the wall
    • There is a fireplace that impedes a direct path to router, though this is why I have a wifi mesh system across three floors of townhouse
    • My Home Hub hasn't been doing the thing where it beeps to acknowledge commands at night, instead choosing to yell loudly that it turned off the lights instead (has it not been updated?)
    • The other products on my network are almost all Kasa mini smart plugs, with the exception of other Nest devices and a Nest-Yale lock
    • Despite it being plugged into the wall, there is an extension cord with other devices in the other open socket
    • My Nest Hub settings are set to recognize my face & make several brightness adjustments, though I'll be disabling Face Match tonight

    Movies!

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    Roomba i7+ vs Neato D7 vs whatever else

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 03:29 PM PST

    I know this question has been asked already in one form or another, but still trying to get a reality check here.

    Got the cyber monday pricing on the Roomba i7+ at $699 less $100 for signing up for a Amazon credit card. Have been using it for a few days and happy with it in a 800 sq ft single floor apartment.

    No issues until I read about the Neato D7 and it's ability to handle low light cleaning better. I'm in a pretty dark apartment and want to be able to clean it automatically when I'm not at home. I have a 30 day exchange window and the pricing on the D7 is also low: $499. So now is the time to really dive in to comparing the two as I have the option to return i7 and get Neato (or another brand)...

    Trying to figure out if the low light capability will really matter in the long run. I'm at the point where I've run the Roomba enough times that it's barely picking up dirt between cleanings. But haven't really battle tested enough in low light situations or used over time. However my thinking is that even if it misses a few spots, I can't believe it won't still do the job in the long run if I run it automatically every day or other day...

    I also have medium pile carpeting in one room and hear the Neato is better on carpets, but again, I'm thinking the i7 is good enough.

    So I guess that's my question: Even if the D7 wins out in low light and carpet cleaning capabilities, if I'm running the roomba i7 every day or every other day is it really going to make a difference in the end?

    I'm also a bit nervous about Neato as there are so many complaints on amazon reviews and reddit. That alone may cement the deal with Roomba.

    Any advice/insights much appreciated!

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    Cancel ecobee HOLD via home automation?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 06:19 AM PST

    Is there a way to cancel a temperature hold remotely through home automation? I like ecobee's scheduling and smart features, but unfortunately when I set a hold via Alexa or Smartthings, it stays at that temperature indefinitely. I would prefer that my I could tell it to resume my normal schedule or that a "HOLD" set remotely would only last 2 hours, as it does when I set a hold via the screen. Is there a way to have ecobee resume its schedule via home automation? I am primarily a smartthings user, but I also use homekit.

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    What on earth are these 3 boxes?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 09:11 PM PST

    Just bought a house, built in 2007. Laundry room upstairs has these three panels. What are they? I think the top is related to the security system. The middle has no key so we can't open it without force or a locksmith. The bottom may be some kind of electrical panel? I'm not entirely sure.

    Sidenote, does my security system work without a subscription? It's a honeywell system but I can't find any information about it on Honeywell's site.

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    Fireplace Lights Controller

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 08:53 PM PST

    Ok, heres the deal, my fireplace has a led strip in it, there is a wall switch that has three poles and each switch controls a specific colour which is red, green and blue. So for instance if i want purple, i turn on the red and blue switch, and if i want white i turn the red, blue, and green on. There is a remote with my fireplace that dims the led strip but cannot change the colour of the strip, just its brightness, and whether its on or off. The wall switch is simply a colour selector for the strip. Is there an alternative that i can use to control the colour of the strip such as with voice, preferably google home, where i can create a phrase like "fireplace red" or "fireplace yellow". I was thinking of a wifi relay with 4 channels where i would be utilizing three poles, and can control the colour that way, but have not been able to find a solution. Please help!!

    Btw in Im Canada, the fireplace is by Heat and Glo, called the COSMO Series

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    Google Nest Max - Yellow Discolouration

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 07:12 AM PST

    Help! Tuna/Smart Life App Tutorials?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 04:46 PM PST

    Hi!

    So I bought some WiFi lightbulbs awhile ago and have them connected to the Smart Life app.

    I am struggling to actually 'automate' using the app... it just doesn't seem intuitive. It seems like I have to setup every single light bulb setting individually... which is tedious and kind of seems to defeat the purpose. Thought I'd be able to easily group and apply settings, schedules, etc... but no.

    Am I missing something? I've looked online for tutorials but not really having luck with that either. This is my first attempt at smart home devices and I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble.

    I appreciate any guidance!

    Thanks!

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    Door sensor help

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 08:26 PM PST

    So I need a door sensor for my preschooler's door that will ping my phone to wake me up. If she gets up to go potty, she will decide she's awake and plays in the living room in the middle of the night. Yes we've told her it's not okay, and while she's been pretty good the last week, it's given me anxiety about her being awake and alone. Also, we have a video and sound monitor in her room but she made no sound when she got up so we had no clue.

    We just tried the Simplisafe package and didn't realize it wouldn't send us a phone notifications unless we paid for the service. Plus we set it to off and it still set off the base alarm when we opened her door—we want to wake up, not wake up the whole house! Any other suggestions for something that will notify our phone? Thanks!

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    Idea requests: what is your favorite thing to use IFTTT for?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 07:38 PM PST

    All my stuff is currently configured through HomeKit. It all works well and I'm happy.

    Recently I discovered something trivial and awesome. My hue lights can blink red and blue when my dominos order is in the oven/out for delivery/ready for pickup.

    This blew my mind. It's something so small but awesome.

    When exploring the app there are so many different services offered it is just too overwhelming.

    So...what's your number one thing you like about IFTTT as it relates to home automation

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    Nest Protect issue. Cannot add it to the app

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 06:44 PM PST

    I just bought my first Nest protect but i am having issues connecting it to the app. My phone and the nest protect is already connected to the same 2.4G wifi. My phone is an Iphone. Anyone encountered this issue?

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    Halo Home reviews

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 01:39 PM PST

    Hey Home automation!

    I am thinking about putting in Halo Home in my house and I was wondering if anyone on this sub has any experience with the product in their home. I am looking to add the RL56 down lights and the smart switches in many different place in my home. I get a really good price on the system through my work. So I am not looking for other options as of right now.

    Thank you in advance!

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    ESPHome based PIR motion sensor setup

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 01:04 PM PST

    Are intermatic ha06 still worth using?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 04:41 PM PST

    i just found a couple intermatic HA06 zwave switches in my garage. are they still useful? i use smart things and google home. all my switches are zooz or similar. i notice the intermatic ones dont have a neutral and i know they gotta be 5-10 years old by now.

    https://imgur.com/a/VPMnoRE

    • HA06
    • Brand Name: Intermatic Inc
    • Product Identifier:
    • Z-Wave Certification Number: ZC04090002
    • Z-Wave Protocol Implementation Conformance Statement: View Download
    • In-wall dimmer; 300W
    • Product Website: http://www.homesettings.com/products/modules/ha06.aspx
    • Z-Wave Plus: No
    • Z-Wave hardware platform: ZW0100
    • Z-Wave version: 3.2X
    • Z-Wave library type: Routing Slave
    • Product Type ID:
    • Product ID:
    • Command Classes: View Command Classes
    • Associated Categories: All Lighting Devices Dimming Lighting Devices
    • This Brand: See other products of this brand
    • Download Product Data in XML Format: Download
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    Could someone explain Hass.io vs home-assistant.io vs Mycroft?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 12:44 PM PST

    Are these all one in the same?

    I want to use a rpi with a mic and speaker to give commands to:

    • start timers
    • ask weather
    • ask other web searchable questions
    • control lights in home
    • potentially control a home security system like shinobi

    Which one of these options or combination of them, would allow me to do this? And is a Raspberry Pi 3B capable of this? the only questionable service on a rpi is the shinobi bc of the video recording

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    Looking for an outdoor rated plug, splitter, extension cord, etc. that can be turned on by my Alexa. I will take all suggestions! Thanks!

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 12:19 PM PST

    Hi! I'm running a short (10 question) survey trying to learn more about doorbell camera owners / which state has the most doorbell cameras. I could use any help I can get! Does NOT ask for personal info besides home state. (Mods, please remove if this isn't allowed here)

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 09:33 AM PST

    Looking for smart home automation app that will connect to geeni light bulbs!

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 03:21 PM PST

    They are lightbulbs that you buy at Walmart and I have a whole bunch of them but the only problem is they dont hook up with Smartthings! I was seeing if anyone had any recommendations!

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    Google/Chromecast -Do i have to specify which speaker I want a song to play out of every time?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 03:18 PM PST

    Bit of a noob question guys but when im asking either my phone or home mini to play songs, do i have to specify what speaker i want it fo play from every single time? For example, ill say to my home mini 'play blah blah on bedroom speaker' to start off a session, but then if i dont specify the same speaker next time i ask it to play something else, it will default to playing out of my home mini instead. How do i make it continue playing on the same device unless i specify otherwise?

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    Hot-tub controller - best solution?

    Posted: 05 Dec 2019 04:26 AM PST

    I'm starting to plan a project to automate the heating element and pump in my hot-tub so I can pre-warm it based on my schedule and when I'd like to use it. Rather than the dumb on/off controls, I'd like to set a time when I plan to use it and for it to switch on (n) hours prior to warm it plus some other automation through #HomeAssistant.

    My plan was to bypass the factory controller but not render it useless. I can either go direct and power the heating element and pump using suitable relays or I could try to simulate the corresponding button presses. I'm not sure what simulating the button press would entail not the hardware I would need. Any thoughts?

    Additionally, my plan was to use a Raspberry Pi and MQTT to control the relays but during my research, I have also discovered ESP and Sonoff. Would these be more suitable to control the relays?

    Flaquito makes some fair points below about temperatures above 40C and not drinking and running. Take note and take caution!

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